{"id":4565,"date":"2024-03-06T13:25:27","date_gmt":"2024-03-06T12:25:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/?p=4565"},"modified":"2024-03-06T13:25:27","modified_gmt":"2024-03-06T12:25:27","slug":"if-we-expand-the-criteria-for-what-makes-a-medical-intervention-invasive-we-should-include-ingestion-not-mental-distress","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/2024\/03\/06\/if-we-expand-the-criteria-for-what-makes-a-medical-intervention-invasive-we-should-include-ingestion-not-mental-distress\/","title":{"rendered":"If we expand the criteria for what makes a medical intervention invasive, we should include ingestion, not mental distress"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Paul Affleck , Julia Cons, and Simon E. Kolstoe.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/jme.bmj.com\/content\/early\/2023\/09\/18\/jme-2023-109301\">De Marco <em>et al<\/em><\/a> have challenged the standard account of what makes a medical intervention invasive, stimulating a set of commentaries, including <a href=\"https:\/\/jme.bmj.com\/content\/early\/2023\/12\/30\/jme-2023-109733\">our own<\/a>. Whilst we have enjoyed this correspondence, we still disagree on some fundamental points.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/jme.bmj.com\/content\/early\/2024\/02\/05\/jme-2024-109893.long\">De Marco <em>et al<\/em><\/a> state it is not clear to them why including mental invasiveness in a definition of invasiveness \u201c\u2026must be rejected as mistaken, confused or practically irrelevant\u201d. We would like to provide clarity. \u2018Mental invasiveness\u2019 is mistaken because it is only invasive if it is unwanted. Otherwise, all the information we receive via our senses is \u2018invasive\u2019 as the root word \u201cinvade\u201d implies a movement from the external to the internal.<\/p>\n<p>Interestingly, this is exactly the way the word invasive is used for medical interventions that are always considered invasive whenever there is an incision or insertion, regardless of whether the person sees it as unwanted. To be consistent with medical invasiveness De Marco <em>et al<\/em> would have to accept that all information received via the senses is invasive \u2013 rendering (as we contend) the use of the word redundant. Alternatively, they must accept that the term \u201cmental invasiveness\u201d only applies when harm is done, rendering their argument inconsistent as they also state: \u201cIt was not our intention to define invasiveness in terms of potential harm\u201d. They cannot have it both ways. Either mental invasiveness refers to all sensory information, or they are defining mental invasiveness by whether the person suffers, or could suffer, the harm of mental distress.<\/p>\n<p>To be charitable, and take this second definition as their meaning, De Marco <em>et al<\/em> cite <a href=\"https:\/\/jme.bmj.com\/content\/early\/2023\/12\/27\/jme-2023-109740\">McFarland <em>et al<\/em>\u2019s commentary<\/a> as evidence that \u2018mental invasiveness\u2019 is useful in the context of psychiatry. But we think this is also incorrect. What McFarland <em>et al<\/em> actually advocate is labelling medications (a physical intervention) as invasive, and although they call for \u201c\u2026a more comprehensive definition of mental invasiveness\u2026\u201d, they do not state \u201ctherapy-based alternatives\u201d should be classified as invasive. If, for example, we describe both cognitive\u2013behavioural therapy and antipsychotic medications as invasive it is not clear what we gain. The nature of delivery, be it via swallowing a pill or engaging in conversation, is largely irrelevant to McFarland <em>et al<\/em>\u2019s aim of deciding on the best treatment.<\/p>\n<p>However, it is true that oral medication is a challenge to the standard account of an invasive medical intervention since swallowing a pill or a liquid medication is a bodily insertion. If one wanted to expand the concept of medical invasiveness, it would be worth considering the concept of ingestion. While we accept that from an anatomical perspective the entire digestive track is separate from the circulatory, interstitial, and cellular components of the body, when considering the intuitive or plain use of the term for clear communication with patients, ingesting an item such as a telemetry pill can helpfully be described as invasive. Continuing this line of reasoning to its logical conclusion, the ingestion of any medication would count as invasive.<\/p>\n<p>To be clear, we think including mental invasiveness in a definition of invasiveness is practically irrelevant because it does not aid communication professionally, and especially not with patients or research participants. As members of the Ministry of Defence Research Ethics Committee we often see applications that involve interviews or questionnaires on intensely personal or sensitive topics such as suicidal thoughts. We always advise applicants to make the potential for emotional distress clear in their participant information and to provide links to relevant support services. We do not see how this would be improved by calling such research mentally invasive, underpinned by an overarching account of invasiveness. For the avoidance of doubt, we do not think psychological interventions are necessarily less serious or harmful than physical interventions, we simply think they are different.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Authors: <\/strong>Paul Affleck , Julia Cons, and Simon E. Kolstoe<\/p>\n<p><strong>Affiliations:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>PA: University of Leeds Faculty of Medicine and Health, Leeds, UK<\/p>\n<p>JC: University of Nottingham, Nottingham, UK<\/p>\n<p>SEK: School of Health and Care Professions, University of Portsmouth, Portsmouth, UK<\/p>\n<p><strong>Competing interests: <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>PA is a programme manager for the UK Colorectal Cancer Intelligence Hub, which is supported by Cancer Research UK (grant C23434\/ A23706). He is also a Specialist Ethics Adviser and Co-Deputy Chair of the Interim Data Advisory Group at NHS England and a lay member of the Ministry of Defence Research Ethics Committee. JC is a Vice Chair of the Ministry of Defence Research Ethics Committee, an Independent Chair of NHS England\u2019s Individual Funding Request Panel, a Commissioner on the Commission on Human Medicines and a Vice Chair of NHS England\u2019s Specialised Commissioning Patient and Public Voice Assurance Group. SEK chairs research ethics committees for the UK\u2019s Ministry of Defence, Health Research Authority and Health Security Agency. He receives income from consulting, writing, teaching, and lecturing in research ethics.<!--TrendMD v2.4.8--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Paul Affleck , Julia Cons, and Simon E. Kolstoe. De Marco et al have challenged the standard account of what makes a medical intervention invasive, stimulating a set of commentaries, including our own. Whilst we have enjoyed this correspondence, we still disagree on some fundamental points. 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