{"id":135,"date":"2009-06-09T22:32:37","date_gmt":"2009-06-09T21:32:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/?p=135"},"modified":"2009-06-09T22:32:37","modified_gmt":"2009-06-09T21:32:37","slug":"more-on-dna-retention","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/2009\/06\/09\/more-on-dna-retention\/","title":{"rendered":"More on DNA Retention"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Not so long ago, <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/2009\/05\/08\/dna-retention-stupid-or-scary\/\">I blogged about the government&#8217;s stupid-and-scary response<\/a> to the drubbing it got at the ECHR concerning the retention of genetic information gathered from arrestees.<\/p>\n<p>It would appear that the police have managed to make the policy even more dispiriting than it was already: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/news\/newstopics\/politics\/lawandorder\/5444332\/Police-arrest-innocent-youths-for-their-DNA-officer-claims.html\">they&#8217;re arresting people in order that they can obtain their DNA<\/a>. \u00a0Quoted in the <em>Telegraph<\/em>, an unnamed officer (and if I was going to say anything this imbecilic, I&#8217;d want to dissociate my name from it if at all possible as well) says<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>[i]t is part of a long-term crime prevention strategy. If you know you have had your DNA taken and it is on a database then you will think twice about committing burglary for a living. \u00a0We are often told that we have just one chance to get that DNA sample and if we miss it then that might mean a rape or a murder goes unsolved in the future.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Oh, come off it. \u00a0Notice how in one sentence he says that a DNA database is preventative &#8211; because that&#8217;s <em>really<\/em>\u00a0how most criminals work, isn&#8217;t it, Columbo? &#8211; and in the next he all but admits that it isn&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<p>Anders Sandberg has fun <a href=\"http:\/\/www.practicalethicsnews.com\/practicalethics\/2009\/06\/precrime-in-camden-using-dna-profiles-for-crime-prevention.html\">taking apart some of the government&#8217;s claims<\/a> about the use of retained genetic information: he&#8217;s suspicious of the idea that 1 crime in 15 is solved using genetic information. \u00a0I agree with him that this does seem a bit high, but it&#8217;s not beyond the realms of possibility. \u00a0I can see how that might work &#8211; though it implies that the forensic science bods are remarkably busy with genes.<\/p>\n<p>But the larger point remains this: while (as Anders admits) there might be <em>a<\/em>\u00a0reason to have everyone&#8217;s DNA stored on the database, it&#8217;s not obvious either that it&#8217;d be all that good a way of preventing crime, or that it&#8217;d feature in the sort of world we&#8217;d want to inhabit anyway. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<!--TrendMD v2.4.8--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Not so long ago, I blogged about the government&#8217;s stupid-and-scary response to the drubbing it got at the ECHR concerning the retention of genetic information gathered from arrestees. 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