{"id":43611,"date":"2018-12-05T17:24:54","date_gmt":"2018-12-05T16:24:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/bmj\/?p=43611"},"modified":"2018-12-14T09:06:51","modified_gmt":"2018-12-14T08:06:51","slug":"crying-nanny-state-is-a-way-of-crushing-sensible-public-discussion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/bmj\/2018\/12\/05\/crying-nanny-state-is-a-way-of-crushing-sensible-public-discussion\/","title":{"rendered":"Crying &#8220;nanny state&#8221; is a way of crushing sensible public discussion"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Political slurs and simplistic slogans are damaging democratic discourse and policy making. In place of open and clear debate, we see unfounded assertions, innuendo, and smears. Influential\u2014and often wealthy\u2014elites (they are this, though pretend otherwise) have sold a myth that they stand against the self-serving control of liberal intellectualism. These elites shun reasoned argument (we\u2019ve had enough of experts\u2026). They close down reasoned discussion of social and political values. And claiming to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with persons who are disaffected, disenchanted, and disenfranchised, their rhetoric masks myriad entrenched commercial and political interests.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The rhetorical technique of crying &#8220;nanny state&#8221; is an example of such crushing of sensible public discussion.<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> This is a travesty in itself, and one that is intensified with its consequent, avoidable health harms and compounded social injustices. Getting to the heart of public health means achieving political consensus on what &#8220;we as a society&#8221; should do to ensure that people can enjoy good health.<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> This is no simple matter.<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> On what basis do we justify redistributing resources to support a healthcare system that is free at the point of delivery? How do we legitimately limit individual and commercial freedoms to control the consumption of, or exposure to, harmful substances? How do we balance health against other important values in our natural, built, and social environments?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">A healthy democracy approaches such questions with a view to understanding the importance of health alongside other crucial values. On their face, nanny state claims are about respecting individual autonomy as a supreme principle (with medico-ethical wisdoms also continuing to perpetuate concern for autonomy above all else in public health policy).<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> In reality, nanny-state &#8220;critiques&#8221; create barriers to achieving flourishing lives in which we have more valuable choices available that can promote our health and wellbeing. They worsen existing social injustices: health inequalities, and the systemic unfairnesses that they signal, are perpetuated. Meaningful promotion of autonomy is undermined rather than achieved.<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> A sad irony of much anti-health rhetoric is its claim of respect for autonomy as a shortcut to manipulation of people\u2019s capacity to make informed and effective decisions.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Such apparent cynicism is underscored when we recognise how dissociable nanny state claims can be from any form of principled argument. Are limits to advertising of unhealthy products a target because they offend individual autonomy: a &#8220;right&#8221; to see adverts? Or might they really be under attack because of their impact on commercial practices? A hallmark of nanny state accusations is an unthinking negativity: a cry of &#8220;nanny state&#8221; serves as a knockout punch rather than an informative or engaging point of debate.<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> You can try to avoid meaningful discussion of social responsibilities for the harms caused, for example, by gambling if you label regulatory interventions &#8220;nanny statist.&#8221;<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u00a0Furthermore, many nanny state accusations, when scrutinised, are inconsistent or incoherent.<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> This extends to the point where they are made against policies that are in no sense &#8220;nannying.&#8221; For example, if you don\u2019t want to debate the environmental impacts of intensive farming, shut down discussions\u2014as a climate minister recently did\u2014by reference to nannying.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">How might we respond to such a situation? Members of the public health community are unsettled by nanny state accusations. Yet we can also find examples of prominent figures who seek to respond to this antagonistic policy climate. To do so ethically requires a joint commitment to reason <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">and<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> to sound and effective communication. As explained in a new report on the nanny state debate, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.fph.org.uk\/media\/1972\/fph-nannystatedebate-report-final.pdf\">recently published by the Faculty of Public Health<\/a><\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">, public health advocacy requires the capacity to \u2018dissect\u2019 nanny state claims, and the ability to respond to them on appropriate terms. Take three distinct examples, discussed in the report, of techniques that are adopted:<\/span><\/p>\n<ol>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Aim to deny nanny state accusations: explain how protecting autonomy requires legislative and regulatory interventions to defend our interests and freedoms.<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Respond to nanny state claims by challenging the premises and practices of those who make them: expose hidden interests and challenge the motivations and effects of their assertions.<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">, <\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Embrace the idea of the nanny state: &#8220;reclaim&#8221; it, rather than allow it to be a viable smear.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The question of what method is appropriate is necessarily a contextual one. But in whatever context, democratic authority is harmed in a situation that does not aim to promote understanding of our shared responsibilities in open, respectful, and inclusive public discourse.<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> We might disagree on what a fair and healthy society looks like, and on what measures might be taken by government and other institutions to achieve fair outcomes. But if discussion of such questions is replaced with rhetorical name-calling, health (and other) policies lack legitimacy. This is necessarily bad politics, as well as bad for the public\u2019s health.<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>See also: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bmj.com\/content\/355\/bmj.i6341\">Are nanny states healthier states?<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/bmj\/files\/2018\/12\/john_coggon2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-43614\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/bmj\/files\/2018\/12\/john_coggon2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"160\" height=\"160\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/bmj\/files\/2018\/12\/john_coggon2.jpg 160w, https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/bmj\/files\/2018\/12\/john_coggon2-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 160px) 100vw, 160px\" \/><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"><em><strong>John Coggon<\/strong> is chair in Law at the University of Bristol, co-director of the Centre for Health, Law, and Society, member of the Bristol Population Health Science Institute, and honorary member of the UK Faculty of Public Health. He has particular expertise in public health ethics and law, and mental capacity law.<\/em>\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/chlsbristol?lang=en-gb\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">@CHLSBristol<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/bmj\/files\/2015\/11\/john_middleton_2015.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-35681\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/bmj\/files\/2015\/11\/john_middleton_2015.png\" alt=\"john_middleton_2015\" width=\"145\" height=\"157\" \/><\/a><em><strong>John Middleton<\/strong> is the president of the <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/FPH\">UK Faculty of Public Health<\/a>, honorary professor of public health at Wolverhampton University, and formerly director of public health in Sandwell in the West Midlands of England. Twitter\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/doctorblooz\">@doctorblooz<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/bmj\/files\/2018\/12\/farhang.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-43612\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/bmj\/files\/2018\/12\/farhang.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"160\" height=\"160\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/bmj\/files\/2018\/12\/farhang.jpg 160w, https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/bmj\/files\/2018\/12\/farhang-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 160px) 100vw, 160px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"><strong>Farhang Tahzib<\/strong> is chair of the UK Faculty Public Health Ethics Committee and a senior public health physician and leader.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/bmj\/files\/2018\/12\/a_viens.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-43613\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/bmj\/files\/2018\/12\/a_viens.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"160\" height=\"160\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/bmj\/files\/2018\/12\/a_viens.jpg 160w, https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/bmj\/files\/2018\/12\/a_viens-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 160px) 100vw, 160px\" \/><\/a><em><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"><strong>A.M. Viens<\/strong> is associate professor in Public Health Law and director of the Centre of Health, Ethics and Law (HEAL) at the University of Southampton. He is a fellow of the Royal Society of Public Health and an honorary member of the Faculty of Public Health. He has particular expertise in population health ethics and law.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Competing interests<\/strong>: <strong>John Coggon<\/strong> is an honorary member of the Faculty of Public Health. He serves on the ethics committees of the Faculty of Public Health and The BMJ. He has provided advice and training to public health professionals through his university and through the Faculty of Public Health and Public Health England. He is an academic at the University of Bristol, UK, and speaks frequently at health-focused conferences.\u00a0<strong>John Middleton<\/strong> is the <span style=\"font-weight: 400\">p<\/span>resident, Faculty of Public Health (FPH); honorary professor, Wolverhampton University; member of council, Royal College of Physicians (RCP) London; member of the Academy of Medical Royal Colleges.\u00a0<strong>Farhang Tahzib<\/strong> is a fellow of the Faculty of Public Health and member of its board. He chairs the ethics committee of the Faculty of Public Health.\u00a0<strong>A.M. Viens<\/strong> is a fellow of the Royal Society of Public Health. He is an honorary member of the Faculty of Public Health. He serves on the ethics committee and the Health Protection Committee of the Faculty of Public Health. He has provided advice, training and guidance to public health professionals through his University and through the Faculty of Public Health and Public Health England. He is an academic at the University of Southampton, UK, and speaks frequently at health-focused conferences.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Political slurs and simplistic slogans are damaging democratic discourse and policy making. In place of open and clear debate, we see unfounded assertions, innuendo, and smears. 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