{"id":1238,"date":"2016-02-02T21:00:55","date_gmt":"2016-02-02T20:00:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/?p=1238"},"modified":"2016-01-27T12:35:31","modified_gmt":"2016-01-27T11:35:31","slug":"how-do-health-care-teams-talk-about-very-low-success-interventions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/2016\/02\/02\/how-do-health-care-teams-talk-about-very-low-success-interventions\/","title":{"rendered":"How do health care teams talk about very-low-success interventions?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-1223\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/files\/2015\/12\/The_Scream-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"The_Scream\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/>The situation is clear. The child has an illness which is very likely to end their life &#8211; and soon &#8211; in days, not months or years. They may be hooked to a ventilator, drizzled with inotropes, or osmosed. The health care team is talking &#8211; once again &#8211; about the outcomes and what we can, should or will do.<\/p>\n<p>Do you recognise this?<\/p>\n<p>Do you recall how people spoke &#8211; not the ~mab, the pressor or the particular hospice name &#8211; but what the emotional and moral content of the discussions were?\u00a0Can you recall if that varied between professional groups &amp;\u00a0experience of those folk? And if there were clashes between how people <em>felt<\/em> the actions should flow, against how they were\u00a0<em>made<\/em> to act?<\/p>\n<p>This is the question that has been investigated by a <a href=\"http:\/\/adc.bmj.com\/content\/early\/2016\/01\/22\/archdischild-2015-309410.abstract\">new systematic review in the ADC<\/a>, drawing together original papers who have enquired about &#8216;moral distress&#8217; in NICU \/ PICU<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>The group undertook a complex, multilayered search (<a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/2010\/03\/07\/fast-appraisals\/\"><strong>F<\/strong>ind<\/a>) to discover papers that might have been relevant, cut into them to see how well they were made using an appraisal system (<strong>A<\/strong>ppraise) and involved this in the summary. To cut to the chase, they found 13 studies, all relatively small, and only 5 multiprofessional. The way the <strong>s<\/strong>ynthesis took place was by a simple thematic analysis, the most basic form that can be used, though the analysis could potentially have been undertaken with a more complex approach.<\/p>\n<p>Now I am aware that a key part of standard critical appraisal training is &#8220;don&#8217;t read the discussion&#8221; &#8230; but in quite a lot of papers, qualitative synthesis in particular, the discussion is actually part of the scholarship rather than part of the sales pitch. In this they summarise the <strong>t<\/strong>ransferability key messages:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>[they tell us the]<em> causes\u00a0of moral distress, relational dynamics between healthcare professionals within different settings or ethical climate and the impact of moral distress over time<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The causes of moral distress seem to be the clashes between interventions undertaken\u00a0and the benefits that could occur, potentially not in the best interest of the child, and a lack of ability to &#8216;do the right thing&#8217;. The relational dynamics that flow into this include the perception of medics as pressing on with life-saving treatments, and nurses caring deeply and personally for the child and family &#8211; but this is probably not really true &#8211; and reflects the way research has been undertaken, the way the instruments to judge &#8216;moral distress&#8217; don&#8217;t work in medics, and the medical use of different language &#8211; &#8220;dilemma&#8221; and &#8220;confrontation&#8221; &#8211; despite the presence of an internal crash of ideas that is moral dilemma.<\/p>\n<p>What do we know about what happens over time? Well moral distress may lead to <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/2015\/12\/01\/drained\/\">burnout <\/a>&amp; leaving jobs. Experience \/ age may reduce the experience of moral distress. Lots of <em>may<\/em>. Not a lot of <em>know<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Does it matter? Is this a pointlessly academic &#8211; socialologically soused &#8211; barrel of work that does nothing in the world? I don&#8217;t think so &#8211; I think we under play the internal agonies we have at work &#8211; and we need to be aware of <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/2015\/12\/01\/drained\/\">burnout <\/a>and keep safe those who are at risk. Understanding the mechanisms of these &#8216;pathologies&#8217; should be considered as important as other pathologies, like bronchiolitis, COPD and psoriasis.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Archi<!--TrendMD v2.4.8--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The situation is clear. The child has an illness which is very likely to end their life &#8211; and soon &#8211; in days, not months or years. They may be hooked to a ventilator, drizzled with inotropes, or osmosed. 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