{"id":1158,"date":"2015-10-02T21:00:15","date_gmt":"2015-10-02T20:00:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/?p=1158"},"modified":"2015-09-17T22:36:12","modified_gmt":"2015-09-17T21:36:12","slug":"clashing-concepts","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/2015\/10\/02\/clashing-concepts\/","title":{"rendered":"Clashing concepts"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/media0.giphy.com\/media\/EYno7N6GGZLfG\/200_s.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"179\" height=\"112\" \/>One thing I meet (fairly often) is the clash between the RCT and the patient &#8216;preference&#8217;. (I have to use &#8216;quotes&#8217; because I know it&#8217;s the wrong phrase but I can&#8217;t find the right one.)<\/p>\n<p>Take an example &#8211; topical\u00a0anaesthesia for accessing implanted central lines in children &amp; young people with cancer. For those who don&#8217;t know, nearly every child who needs chemo in Western Europe, North America and Australasia will have a surgically placed central line to enable venous access for blood taking and drug delivery. For some, it will be a &#8216;wiggly&#8217; one, like a Hickman or Broviac. For some it will be an implanted one, like a Port-a-Cath or Pass-port.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>For venous access, we are aware from RCTs that <a href=\"http:\/\/journals.lww.com\/nursingresearchonline\/pages\/articleviewer.aspx?year=2002&amp;issue=03000&amp;article=00008&amp;type=abstract\">topical anaesthesia is effective<\/a>\u00a0at making stabby things less painful. It&#8217;s magic. There&#8217;s a some\u00a0comparative evidence to show that<a href=\"http:\/\/onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/10.1002\/14651858.CD004236.pub2\/abstract\"> EMLA may be a bit less good than Ametop<\/a> creams. And there&#8217;s some data which suggests <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sciencedirect.com\/science\/article\/pii\/S0736467914007227\">vapocoolants may be effective<\/a>\u00a0despite how the authors interpret that data\u00a0(pain is probably reduced but it&#8217;s unpleasant\u00a0putting it on).<\/p>\n<p>The RCT-only\u00a0approach would demand that Ametop be used, EMLA if you couldn&#8217;t get hold of it, and\u00a0stop the order for cold spray. (Actually, an extremist may argue that as the populations under study in the trials didn&#8217;t have implanted CVCs then we can&#8217;t use any of that information &amp; should declare complete ignorance.) It&#8217;s an observed phenomenon that some patients will ask, or their proxy will ask, for spray, nothing, cream, bubbles, the iPad, all of them &#8230; For some people cream &#8216;doesn&#8217;t work&#8217; and spray does .. But the &#8216;working&#8217; might be expectation, placebo, one-off bad experiences &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>When it&#8217;s a choice of magic for Port access, we&#8217;ll let it go.<\/p>\n<p>What if it was a choice of antibiotic prescription for otitis media? Do the same rules apply?<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Archi<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<!--TrendMD v2.4.8--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One thing I meet (fairly often) is the clash between the RCT and the patient &#8216;preference&#8217;. (I have to use &#8216;quotes&#8217; because I know it&#8217;s the wrong phrase but I can&#8217;t find the right one.) Take an example &#8211; topical\u00a0anaesthesia for accessing implanted central lines in children &amp; young people with cancer. 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