{"id":107,"date":"2010-06-01T17:25:54","date_gmt":"2010-06-01T16:25:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/adc-archimedes\/?p=107"},"modified":"2010-06-01T17:31:38","modified_gmt":"2010-06-01T16:31:38","slug":"what-about-benefits","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/2010\/06\/01\/what-about-benefits\/","title":{"rendered":"What about benefits?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" title=\"Fisher pontificating\" src=\"http:\/\/www.economics.soton.ac.uk\/staff\/aldrich\/fisherguide\/Doc1_files\/image001.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"92\" height=\"95\" \/>It&#8217;s worth taking some time to return to basics every now and again, and one thing that continues to befuddle medics the world over is the issue of &#8216;statistical significance&#8217;. <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Take your average trial, say 3% saline vs. placebo for bronchiolitis admissions. You can take the proportion of kids who end up in hospital in each group, and then ask the questions &#8220;is this difference just a chance finding, or not?&#8221; You &#8211; or someone else &#8211; then does a statistical test. The test then gives you an answer, which tells you is how likely the result you found is to be due to chance: the p-value.<\/p>\n<p>So what? If p = 0.05, does this mean that 3% saline works? Well, it means that the results, if coming from unbiased samples, are likely to be this or even more different in only 1 in 20 cases. (If the p=0.01, then this would be by fluke in only 1 in 100 cases.) You&#8217;ll note the p-value never tells you something works, or not, it just tells you about chance. By convention, we have decided that if it&#8217;s &#8220;true&#8221; if p&lt;0.05. But this is a convenience and a fascinating set of debates <a title=\"Why 0.05?\" href=\"http:\/\/www.jerrydallal.com\/LHSP\/p05.htm\">surround this<\/a> value.<\/p>\n<p>If you think that&#8217;s good enough, then take the leap of faith, and prescribe.\u00a0 If you&#8217;re looking for certainty, then get a different job. If instead of just saying &#8216;Does it work?&#8217; you want to know &#8216;How well does it work?&#8217; then you don&#8217;t want statistical significance &#8211; you want an estimate of effect: more about that in another blog.<\/p>\n<p>Acknowledgment: Fisher photo from <a href=\"www.citeulike.org\/blog\/Zephyrus\">Zephyrus<\/a><\/p>\n<p>ps &#8211; Monthly emails explaining statistics from <a title=\"Stephen D. 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