{"id":1013,"date":"2014-11-25T20:41:11","date_gmt":"2014-11-25T19:41:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/?p=1013"},"modified":"2014-11-18T18:12:50","modified_gmt":"2014-11-18T17:12:50","slug":"ignore-the-platelet-count-in-hsp-if-youre-wondering-about-kidneys","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/2014\/11\/25\/ignore-the-platelet-count-in-hsp-if-youre-wondering-about-kidneys\/","title":{"rendered":"Ignore the platelet count in HSP if you&#8217;re wondering about kidneys"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/files\/2014\/03\/030614_1634_Gamblingalc11.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-899\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/files\/2014\/03\/030614_1634_Gamblingalc11.jpg\" alt=\"030614_1634_Gamblingalc1.jpg\" width=\"253\" height=\"254\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/files\/2014\/03\/030614_1634_Gamblingalc11.jpg 253w, https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/files\/2014\/03\/030614_1634_Gamblingalc11-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 253px) 100vw, 253px\" \/><\/a>Every now &amp; then you bump into something that makes your heart sing.<\/p>\n<p>For me, I sometimes struggle to come up with good examples of an &#8216;EBM&#8217; tennet &#8211; for instance, the difference between statistical and clinical significance &#8211; which has an actual origin. Well, in a paper entitled\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/10.1002\/jcla.21817\/full\">Platelet Counts in Children With Henoch\u2013Schonlein Purpura\u2014Relationship to Renal Involvement<\/a>\u00a0I think I have hit gold.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>The paper looked at 107 patients with HSP, of whom 28 had renal involvement. A<a title=\"StatsMiniBlog. Regression\" href=\"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/2014\/01\/15\/statsminiblog-regression\/\"> multivariable logistic regression analysis<\/a> showed that platelet count was significantly related to renal involvement (p=0.001). The mean\u00a0counts\u00a0were 483 in the renal group, and 422 in the uninvolved group.This led to an<a title=\"Basics. RR, OR and the like\" href=\"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/2014\/01\/12\/basics-rr-or-and-the-like\/\"> OR<\/a> of 1.0 (1.00 to 1.02) for platelets. They also showed that with the optimal cut point (&gt;565) there was a <a title=\"Sensitivity and specificity\" href=\"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/2014\/03\/09\/sensitivity-and-specificity\/\">36% sensitivity and 49% specificity<\/a> for\u00a0HSP nephritis (I think they got these reversed).<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Yup. Read those numbers again.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Gambling, alcohol and division.\" href=\"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/2014\/03\/23\/gambling-alcohol-and-division\/\">LR+ 1.4, LR-0.7<\/a> &#8212; if the\u00a0sensitivity and specificity are indeed written backwards &#8212; functionally useless.<\/p>\n<p>And\u00a0OR of 1.0 (1.00 to 1.02)? (Well actually this is poor presentation of the data &#8212; it&#8217;s &#8216;per platelet *10^3&#8217; that this is done in &#8211; would make more sense to be for every 10 or 50 increase, wouldn&#8217;t it?<\/p>\n<p>And then add to this the<a title=\"Diagnostic test accuracy\" href=\"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/2014\/02\/19\/diagnostic-test-accuracy\/\"> over-optimism of such data cuts<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Like I said. EB-example-gold.<\/p>\n<p>Just, whatever you don, DON&#8217;T use\u00a0platelet count in HSP if you&#8217;re wondering about kidneys.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Archi<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<!--TrendMD v2.4.8--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Every now &amp; then you bump into something that makes your heart sing. For me, I sometimes struggle to come up with good examples of an &#8216;EBM&#8217; tennet &#8211; for instance, the difference between statistical and clinical significance &#8211; which has an actual origin. Well, in a paper entitled\u00a0Platelet Counts in Children With Henoch\u2013Schonlein Purpura\u2014Relationship [&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"btn btn-secondary understrap-read-more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/2014\/11\/25\/ignore-the-platelet-count-in-hsp-if-youre-wondering-about-kidneys\/\">Read More&#8230;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[79],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1013","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-archimedes"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Ignore the platelet count in HSP if you&#039;re wondering about kidneys - ADC Online Blog<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/2014\/11\/25\/ignore-the-platelet-count-in-hsp-if-youre-wondering-about-kidneys\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_GB\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Ignore the platelet count in HSP if you&#039;re wondering about kidneys - ADC Online Blog\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Every now &amp; then you bump into something that makes your heart sing. 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