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		<title>By: Pamela Ritche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela Ritche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 21:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: @BJSM_BMJ</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2011 04:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this thoughtful and thought-provoking blog. I think BenB hit the nail on the head (or made the correct diagnosis to keep with medical metaphors) by raising the hierarchy/deference issue. Medicine continues to be &#039;eminence-based&#039; in many ways despite the lip service to &#039;evidence-based&#039;. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At the same time, as folks trained in medicine, we need to be aware that system change is not straightforward. Change has its own discipline and doctors can&#039;t expect to come up with a good idea and expect it to take off magically! Read Kotter in Harvard Business Review (or his book) about &#039;Transformational Change&#039;. Implementation Science is a major frontier that is not covered in medicine. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fiona, you and folks like Emma Stanton and many others are key leaders in the &#039;clinician leadership&#039; field -- this parallels the innovation of clinician-researchers.Not every clinician can, or wants to, contribute as a leader in research but there are many examples of folks how have. Combining two disciplines is a classic approach to innovation - think biology and engineering leading to bioengineering. Underpinning these creative environments is the science of transdisciplinarity and Prof Daniel Stokols from UC Irvine is a remarkable leader in this field. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My last point is that the &#039;macro-environment&#039; needs to be conducive to both individual&#039;s efforts and those of teams (See Hackmann on how teams work). Fiona you raise the point that the NHS must invest in leadership and it would be a good idea to include doctors among those it invests in. Otherwise the macro-environment will be a limiting factor for the type of healthy change the governments are looking for. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks again for your post and I look forward to your next!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this thoughtful and thought-provoking blog. I think BenB hit the nail on the head (or made the correct diagnosis to keep with medical metaphors) by raising the hierarchy/deference issue. Medicine continues to be &#39;eminence-based&#39; in many ways despite the lip service to &#39;evidence-based&#39;. </p>
<p>At the same time, as folks trained in medicine, we need to be aware that system change is not straightforward. Change has its own discipline and doctors can&#39;t expect to come up with a good idea and expect it to take off magically! Read Kotter in Harvard Business Review (or his book) about &#39;Transformational Change&#39;. Implementation Science is a major frontier that is not covered in medicine. </p>
<p>Fiona, you and folks like Emma Stanton and many others are key leaders in the &#39;clinician leadership&#39; field &#8212; this parallels the innovation of clinician-researchers.Not every clinician can, or wants to, contribute as a leader in research but there are many examples of folks how have. Combining two disciplines is a classic approach to innovation &#8211; think biology and engineering leading to bioengineering. Underpinning these creative environments is the science of transdisciplinarity and Prof Daniel Stokols from UC Irvine is a remarkable leader in this field. </p>
<p>My last point is that the &#39;macro-environment&#39; needs to be conducive to both individual&#39;s efforts and those of teams (See Hackmann on how teams work). Fiona you raise the point that the NHS must invest in leadership and it would be a good idea to include doctors among those it invests in. Otherwise the macro-environment will be a limiting factor for the type of healthy change the governments are looking for. </p>
<p>Thanks again for your post and I look forward to your next!</p>
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		<title>By: Fiona Pathiraja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fiona Pathiraja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 17:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Dougy. Thank you for this comment. Yes, the &#039;junior doctor&#039; tag comes with many negative connotations. Question is, what could we use as a suitable alternative? Young doctors? Trainees? Neither of those sit well with me. &lt;br&gt;I agree that Liam Donaldson took a calculated risk in setting up the Chief Medical Officer&#039;s Clinical Advisers scheme. Indeed, you and I have both benefited from his vision and energy around clinical leadership and young doctors. I am glad that the scheme now has a new home (the Faculty of Medical Leadership and Management) and a new sponsor/steward (Sir Bruce Keogh, NHS Medical Director). I hope that the new NHS commissioning board will continue to recognise the potential in the junior doctor workforce and encourage them to lead from the frontline. F]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dougy. Thank you for this comment. Yes, the &#39;junior doctor&#39; tag comes with many negative connotations. Question is, what could we use as a suitable alternative? Young doctors? Trainees? Neither of those sit well with me. <br />I agree that Liam Donaldson took a calculated risk in setting up the Chief Medical Officer&#39;s Clinical Advisers scheme. Indeed, you and I have both benefited from his vision and energy around clinical leadership and young doctors. I am glad that the scheme now has a new home (the Faculty of Medical Leadership and Management) and a new sponsor/steward (Sir Bruce Keogh, NHS Medical Director). I hope that the new NHS commissioning board will continue to recognise the potential in the junior doctor workforce and encourage them to lead from the frontline. F</p>
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		<title>By: Fiona Pathiraja</title>
		<link>http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2011/04/06/fiona-pathiraja-investing-in-future-clinical-leaders/#comment-14066</link>
		<dc:creator>Fiona Pathiraja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 17:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Ben. Thank you for your post. Deference is so deeply ingrained in the medical profession and yes, it does stifle innovation and perhaps even reduce productivity. I wonder if this culture will prevail when we are consultants? Aviation is an excellent example of where medicine and healthcare can learn from - their work on human factors and behaviours is transferable to operating theatres and wards in the NHS. I agree leadership is not the best word but I&#039;m struggling to find another word that encapsulates all these concepts. Ideas welcome! F]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ben. Thank you for your post. Deference is so deeply ingrained in the medical profession and yes, it does stifle innovation and perhaps even reduce productivity. I wonder if this culture will prevail when we are consultants? Aviation is an excellent example of where medicine and healthcare can learn from &#8211; their work on human factors and behaviours is transferable to operating theatres and wards in the NHS. I agree leadership is not the best word but I&#39;m struggling to find another word that encapsulates all these concepts. Ideas welcome! F</p>
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		<title>By: Fiona Pathiraja</title>
		<link>http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2011/04/06/fiona-pathiraja-investing-in-future-clinical-leaders/#comment-14065</link>
		<dc:creator>Fiona Pathiraja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 17:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Paul, thanks for your support on the blog! Much appreciated. Yes, I agree that the concept of &#039;clinical leadership&#039; is somewhat fudged in the NHS at the moment. Clinical leadership should include other professions and have a broad base. However, I do feel that the medical profession feels that it needs to apologise for &#039;medical&#039; leadership. I don&#039;t think we can wait for this - we need to actively harness talent if the NHS is to survive difficult financial times. &lt;br&gt;F]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul, thanks for your support on the blog! Much appreciated. Yes, I agree that the concept of &#39;clinical leadership&#39; is somewhat fudged in the NHS at the moment. Clinical leadership should include other professions and have a broad base. However, I do feel that the medical profession feels that it needs to apologise for &#39;medical&#39; leadership. I don&#39;t think we can wait for this &#8211; we need to actively harness talent if the NHS is to survive difficult financial times. <br />F</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Rutter</title>
		<link>http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2011/04/06/fiona-pathiraja-investing-in-future-clinical-leaders/#comment-14063</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Rutter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 14:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fiona,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You make some very nice points, essentially about empowering and valuing front-line staff, and developing culture and practices that ensure their perspective is heard.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I understand the link with clinical leadership to an extent, but I can&#039;t help but feel that the CL buzzword is muddying the waters not just here, but across a wide range of different current debates. Your point here is entirely cogent and logical without referring to &#039;clinical leadership&#039;, more so in fact. Nobody really seems clear what they mean by CL. It&#039;s a bit of a catch-all. I think it is more useful to remain concrete (&#039;train doctors in management&#039; / &#039;change the term junior&#039; / &#039;more doctors in management posts&#039; / &#039;GPs should commission&#039;). These are all quite distinct debates.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t particularly think that the NHS should empower its staff because they are &quot;the next generation of leaders&quot;. It should do so because this is valuable and motivationally important in itself.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for raising this. I look forward to your next blog&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Paul]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fiona,</p>
<p>You make some very nice points, essentially about empowering and valuing front-line staff, and developing culture and practices that ensure their perspective is heard.</p>
<p>I understand the link with clinical leadership to an extent, but I can&#39;t help but feel that the CL buzzword is muddying the waters not just here, but across a wide range of different current debates. Your point here is entirely cogent and logical without referring to &#39;clinical leadership&#39;, more so in fact. Nobody really seems clear what they mean by CL. It&#39;s a bit of a catch-all. I think it is more useful to remain concrete (&#39;train doctors in management&#39; / &#39;change the term junior&#39; / &#39;more doctors in management posts&#39; / &#39;GPs should commission&#39;). These are all quite distinct debates.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t particularly think that the NHS should empower its staff because they are &#8220;the next generation of leaders&#8221;. It should do so because this is valuable and motivationally important in itself.</p>
<p>Thanks for raising this. I look forward to your next blog</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>By: BenB</title>
		<link>http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2011/04/06/fiona-pathiraja-investing-in-future-clinical-leaders/#comment-14064</link>
		<dc:creator>BenB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 14:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting post Fiona.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The medical profession is still beset by hierarchy and a system of seniority based largely on years in service rather than actual competence.  Thankfully, the hierarchical division between doctors and other health professionals has blurred in recent years, but it still is very much alive within the medical profession itself. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Apart from stifling innovation and creativity in service design and provision, the culture of deference also impacts on the quality and safety of medical care.  Many other industries have long ago realised this - witness the rise of &quot;Crew Resource Management&quot; in aviation, in recognition of the fact the fact that idea that &quot;the captain always knows best&quot; costs lives.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Leadership is perhaps not the best word for what is needed.  Certainly leadership is required (and not just from those who have been in the job longest) but also a culture of collaboration and teamwork that encourages creativity, confidence and assertiveness in those traditionally seen to be &quot;juniors&quot;.&lt;br&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post Fiona.</p>
<p>The medical profession is still beset by hierarchy and a system of seniority based largely on years in service rather than actual competence.  Thankfully, the hierarchical division between doctors and other health professionals has blurred in recent years, but it still is very much alive within the medical profession itself. </p>
<p>Apart from stifling innovation and creativity in service design and provision, the culture of deference also impacts on the quality and safety of medical care.  Many other industries have long ago realised this &#8211; witness the rise of &#8220;Crew Resource Management&#8221; in aviation, in recognition of the fact the fact that idea that &#8220;the captain always knows best&#8221; costs lives.</p>
<p>Leadership is perhaps not the best word for what is needed.  Certainly leadership is required (and not just from those who have been in the job longest) but also a culture of collaboration and teamwork that encourages creativity, confidence and assertiveness in those traditionally seen to be &#8220;juniors&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca Long </title>
		<link>http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2011/04/06/fiona-pathiraja-investing-in-future-clinical-leaders/#comment-14060</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca Long </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 13:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is an interesting post. However I do wonder about juniors getting involved with leadership. Will they have time now that the working week is just 48 hours? If leadership and management want to be taken seriously, it needs to be set up right from medical school. Junior doctors aren&#039;t trained to lead. Like in the military, medicine needs to learn to take leadership seriously and this won&#039;t happen unless the people at the top recognise that we need to train leaders - not just expect a few leaders to arise out of the ashes of a group of junior doctors who have been disillusioned.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting post. However I do wonder about juniors getting involved with leadership. Will they have time now that the working week is just 48 hours? If leadership and management want to be taken seriously, it needs to be set up right from medical school. Junior doctors aren&#39;t trained to lead. Like in the military, medicine needs to learn to take leadership seriously and this won&#39;t happen unless the people at the top recognise that we need to train leaders &#8211; not just expect a few leaders to arise out of the ashes of a group of junior doctors who have been disillusioned.</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Noble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 13:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you raise a very important point about the disempowerment of young doctors in the NHS.  It is ironic that you can be copying out blood results from a computer screen one day into the ‘bloods folder’, and at the same time be highly employable by organisations that would propel you to assisting to set an entire NHS organisations strategy.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Perhaps the biggest problem is epitomised by the title ‘junior doctor’ and we would do well to redesign the system in such a way as it would become obvious this title was inappropriate.  What we really want is a system that nurtures executive apprentices.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In retrospect I can see what an extraordinary move it was for Liam Donaldson to initiate a clinical leadership scheme and take seriously the views and skills of young doctors.  I hope future Chief Medical Officers will continue to make this nurturing of clinical leadership a priority for the future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you raise a very important point about the disempowerment of young doctors in the NHS.  It is ironic that you can be copying out blood results from a computer screen one day into the ‘bloods folder’, and at the same time be highly employable by organisations that would propel you to assisting to set an entire NHS organisations strategy.  </p>
<p>Perhaps the biggest problem is epitomised by the title ‘junior doctor’ and we would do well to redesign the system in such a way as it would become obvious this title was inappropriate.  What we really want is a system that nurtures executive apprentices.  </p>
<p>In retrospect I can see what an extraordinary move it was for Liam Donaldson to initiate a clinical leadership scheme and take seriously the views and skills of young doctors.  I hope future Chief Medical Officers will continue to make this nurturing of clinical leadership a priority for the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Nimalpathiraja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nimalpathiraja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 09:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting indeed! I do agree with what you say why NHS is hiring management consultants. It is indeed true for many organizations not only to NHS. Other government departments and QUANGOS do that too. The point is that they know what they want to do so they get someone else to say it so it looks more credible. So management consultants are laughing! Nevertheless, it is good to get the views of the people at the coalface. If one can change these things, that would be good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting indeed! I do agree with what you say why NHS is hiring management consultants. It is indeed true for many organizations not only to NHS. Other government departments and QUANGOS do that too. The point is that they know what they want to do so they get someone else to say it so it looks more credible. So management consultants are laughing! Nevertheless, it is good to get the views of the people at the coalface. If one can change these things, that would be good.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel McGuinness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel McGuinness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 02:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Couldn&#039;t agree more!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Part of the problem with &#039;juniors&#039; not feeling part of an organisation is due to the rapidity with which they rotate onto another Trust. It results in them never really feeling they are a valued part of an organisation and they have difficulty in developing the working relationships they need to be able to make a real difference on a local level in relation to systems, organisation and operations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#39;t agree more!</p>
<p>Part of the problem with &#39;juniors&#39; not feeling part of an organisation is due to the rapidity with which they rotate onto another Trust. It results in them never really feeling they are a valued part of an organisation and they have difficulty in developing the working relationships they need to be able to make a real difference on a local level in relation to systems, organisation and operations.</p>
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		<title>By: Katy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 21:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really interesting post.  I completed a management training scheme outside of the NHS and then joined a PCT.  I was shocked at the hierarchy within the PCT and little respect that was given to those just starting off their career at the NHS.  This contrasted to my previous organisation, where I felt my opinion was valid and that I was a developing leader of the future.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Given that many doctors have found themselves in management positions, with little training in the area, I wonder what&#039;s being done in medical schools to ensure that the future clinical leaders have some knowledge in this area before they&#039;re thrown in at the deep end.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really interesting post.  I completed a management training scheme outside of the NHS and then joined a PCT.  I was shocked at the hierarchy within the PCT and little respect that was given to those just starting off their career at the NHS.  This contrasted to my previous organisation, where I felt my opinion was valid and that I was a developing leader of the future.  </p>
<p>Given that many doctors have found themselves in management positions, with little training in the area, I wonder what&#39;s being done in medical schools to ensure that the future clinical leaders have some knowledge in this area before they&#39;re thrown in at the deep end.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 20:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent piece.  Couple of things it made me reflect on:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- There&#039;s a lot of talk and debate about &#039;clinical&#039; leadership, which tends to mean leaders who are also clinicians.  What do you think about the artificial distinction between leaders based on their job...nobody talks about administrative leaders, or portering leaders, or even &#039;managerial&#039; leaders.  Agree that good leadership will be crucial, but by elevating leadership from one group over another it feels to me that proper integrated team working will be an uphill struggle&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- From my experience the innovation and enthusiasm shown by Junior Docs is as often held back by their consultant than it is by &#039;managers&#039; (some of whome may also be Drs or nurses btw).  It is the same prejudice that stops senior managers from listening to junior administrators about processes and systems.  The problem of orgs not using their own frontline staff to drive innovation is a massive OD challenge.  It needs passionate people to make it a priority if the NHS is going to meet the £20bn challenge over the next few years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent piece.  Couple of things it made me reflect on:</p>
<p>- There&#39;s a lot of talk and debate about &#39;clinical&#39; leadership, which tends to mean leaders who are also clinicians.  What do you think about the artificial distinction between leaders based on their job&#8230;nobody talks about administrative leaders, or portering leaders, or even &#39;managerial&#39; leaders.  Agree that good leadership will be crucial, but by elevating leadership from one group over another it feels to me that proper integrated team working will be an uphill struggle</p>
<p>- From my experience the innovation and enthusiasm shown by Junior Docs is as often held back by their consultant than it is by &#39;managers&#39; (some of whome may also be Drs or nurses btw).  It is the same prejudice that stops senior managers from listening to junior administrators about processes and systems.  The problem of orgs not using their own frontline staff to drive innovation is a massive OD challenge.  It needs passionate people to make it a priority if the NHS is going to meet the £20bn challenge over the next few years.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Cowper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Cowper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 20:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good blog, making an interesting point about why the NHS management hierarchy gave itself a permission to listen to you as an external, &#039;big brand&#039; management consultant which it did not seem to afford you as a young doctor starting an NHS career.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good blog, making an interesting point about why the NHS management hierarchy gave itself a permission to listen to you as an external, &#39;big brand&#39; management consultant which it did not seem to afford you as a young doctor starting an NHS career.</p>
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