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		<title>By: Simon Singh Case Response Roundup &#171; God knows what&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2009/09/10/sile-lane-on-keeping-libel-laws-out-of-science/#comment-4808</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Singh Case Response Roundup &#171; God knows what&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sile Lane of Sense-About-Science writes in the British Medical Journal blog about the chilling effect that the UK libel laws can have and why we need to be concerned but also provides a ray of hope by detailing the &#8220;unprecedented counterblast&#8221; that  Simon&#8217;s case has engendered. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sile Lane of Sense-About-Science writes in the British Medical Journal blog about the chilling effect that the UK libel laws can have and why we need to be concerned but also provides a ray of hope by detailing the &#8220;unprecedented counterblast&#8221; that  Simon&#8217;s case has engendered. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael O'Neil</title>
		<link>http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2009/09/10/sile-lane-on-keeping-libel-laws-out-of-science/#comment-4793</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael O'Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 06:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In case you are not aware - check out Private Eye magazine&#039;s Libel News column (probably amongst others) - there&#039;s very often a report on Justice Eady and what they refer to as Libel Tourism. I know they have featured Simon Singh&#039;s case from time to time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case you are not aware &#8211; check out Private Eye magazine&#8217;s Libel News column (probably amongst others) &#8211; there&#8217;s very often a report on Justice Eady and what they refer to as Libel Tourism. I know they have featured Simon Singh&#8217;s case from time to time.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Holliday</title>
		<link>http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2009/09/10/sile-lane-on-keeping-libel-laws-out-of-science/#comment-4791</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin Holliday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 08:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many thanks for keeping me informed]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks for keeping me informed</p>
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		<title>By: Prof Paul Braterman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2009/09/10/sile-lane-on-keeping-libel-laws-out-of-science/#comment-4790</link>
		<dc:creator>Prof Paul Braterman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The onus of proof is in the wrong place in England. Unlike every other legal issue, it is the *defendant* who has to prove truth *and* legitimate public interest. The onus should be on the plaintiff to show that the material being sued about is false and/or not a matter of public interest. The necessary legislation could be very simple.

The present situation is even worse than the article states, with authors being sued in the English courts for material published elsewhere if copies of the material are purchased in the UK, something the plaintiff can readily engineer. So the threat of suppression is worldwide. Again, legislation could easily address this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The onus of proof is in the wrong place in England. Unlike every other legal issue, it is the *defendant* who has to prove truth *and* legitimate public interest. The onus should be on the plaintiff to show that the material being sued about is false and/or not a matter of public interest. The necessary legislation could be very simple.</p>
<p>The present situation is even worse than the article states, with authors being sued in the English courts for material published elsewhere if copies of the material are purchased in the UK, something the plaintiff can readily engineer. So the threat of suppression is worldwide. Again, legislation could easily address this.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Rawlins</title>
		<link>http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2009/09/10/sile-lane-on-keeping-libel-laws-out-of-science/#comment-4789</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Rawlins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 17:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a member of the BMA&#039;s Representative Body I successfully proposed at this June&#039;s ARM that BMA Council should keep abreast of this issue.

What I do not understand is why critics or commentators of un-scientific therapies (or any other non- science come to that) do not use more moderate libel proof language.

Not &quot;These claims are bogus&quot; - but &quot;Given the paucity of credible evidence, some might think that the proponents of this treatment are seeking to deliberately mislead the public and promulgate false information...&quot;.

Use Private Eye as an example. &quot;Allegedly&quot; seems to be a handy word.

As for homeopathy - &quot;Given there can be no molecule of the original substance in the &#039;remedy&#039;, any effect it may have is so unlikely to be due to that molecule as to make such an explanation totally implausible to classically trained scientists. Some homeopaths suggest water has a &#039;memory&#039;. If that is ever to be shown to be the case and accepted as such, a Nobel prize would be in the offing, but at present there just is not sufficient evidence. Any effect that homeopathic treatment has is more likely to be due to psychological mediation, best described by the term &#039;placebo effect&#039;.&quot;

Surely such a comment does not libel anyone, yet encapsulates the issue.

Unless of course it is felt the therapist is indeed intending to be fraudulent and bogus!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a member of the BMA&#8217;s Representative Body I successfully proposed at this June&#8217;s ARM that BMA Council should keep abreast of this issue.</p>
<p>What I do not understand is why critics or commentators of un-scientific therapies (or any other non- science come to that) do not use more moderate libel proof language.</p>
<p>Not &#8220;These claims are bogus&#8221; &#8211; but &#8220;Given the paucity of credible evidence, some might think that the proponents of this treatment are seeking to deliberately mislead the public and promulgate false information&#8230;&#8221;.</p>
<p>Use Private Eye as an example. &#8220;Allegedly&#8221; seems to be a handy word.</p>
<p>As for homeopathy &#8211; &#8220;Given there can be no molecule of the original substance in the &#8216;remedy&#8217;, any effect it may have is so unlikely to be due to that molecule as to make such an explanation totally implausible to classically trained scientists. Some homeopaths suggest water has a &#8216;memory&#8217;. If that is ever to be shown to be the case and accepted as such, a Nobel prize would be in the offing, but at present there just is not sufficient evidence. Any effect that homeopathic treatment has is more likely to be due to psychological mediation, best described by the term &#8216;placebo effect&#8217;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Surely such a comment does not libel anyone, yet encapsulates the issue.</p>
<p>Unless of course it is felt the therapist is indeed intending to be fraudulent and bogus!</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Nick Ashley</title>
		<link>http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2009/09/10/sile-lane-on-keeping-libel-laws-out-of-science/#comment-4777</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Nick Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What constitutes a libel should be redefined in much narrower terms. It should be that a libel seeks to hurt, misrepresent or make financial gain by attacking the individual or institution. The libel laws in England are just too wide and outrageous in this scope.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What constitutes a libel should be redefined in much narrower terms. It should be that a libel seeks to hurt, misrepresent or make financial gain by attacking the individual or institution. The libel laws in England are just too wide and outrageous in this scope.</p>
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