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	<title>Comments on: Ohad Oren: Ambulances flying above the Middle East</title>
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		<title>By: Ohad Oren</title>
		<link>http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2008/10/21/ohad-oren-ambulances-flying-above-the-middle-east/#comment-3146</link>
		<dc:creator>Ohad Oren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many thanks for all of your encouraging responses to this article. These have provided me with the much-needed hope that a truly humane endeavor, built on several layers and engaging people from all spectrum of professions sharing thoughts and critique, has a chance to bring relief, even if a minor one, to crises of the type described. From this theoretical, draft-engraved, sketchy public-health suggestion, the road is twisted, its asphalt fragile, and at times frighteningly narrow. Nevertheless, clearing the obscure path ahead IS possible, and simply a function of the number of people who feel an urge to lend their hand to correct such inadequacies, common in African and other developing countries.. My idea of a “Flying Hospital” echoing Baron Larrey’s historical battlefield ambulance merely is a basic contemplation, with much polishing and fine-tuning required. Extensive work is still to be performed before any accomplishment is evident.

In the Middle East, a neighborhood where bloody conflicts run unabated for decades already, we must be fully aware of a perilous situation that seems to exist: politics sometimes substitute medical humanitarian-induced activism. This represents nothing less than a serious danger, and also a universally-embracing one. It is not to say that politics has no role in our journey toward ameliorating humanitarian crises, but that politics and bureaucracy should by no means interfere with our inherent concern for war/military conflicts/natural disasters casualties. Whether it is Darfurians suffering militia-led Janjaweed abuse or Chinese victims of a largely neglected earthquake, vulnerable groups of individuals falling between the cracks must ignite our very basic reflexes. THESE are the border zone populations that ought to become the focus of a broader and more sincere attempt to distribute genuine health care to all individuals of our society. 

Ohad Oren
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks for all of your encouraging responses to this article. These have provided me with the much-needed hope that a truly humane endeavor, built on several layers and engaging people from all spectrum of professions sharing thoughts and critique, has a chance to bring relief, even if a minor one, to crises of the type described. From this theoretical, draft-engraved, sketchy public-health suggestion, the road is twisted, its asphalt fragile, and at times frighteningly narrow. Nevertheless, clearing the obscure path ahead IS possible, and simply a function of the number of people who feel an urge to lend their hand to correct such inadequacies, common in African and other developing countries.. My idea of a “Flying Hospital” echoing Baron Larrey’s historical battlefield ambulance merely is a basic contemplation, with much polishing and fine-tuning required. Extensive work is still to be performed before any accomplishment is evident.</p>
<p>In the Middle East, a neighborhood where bloody conflicts run unabated for decades already, we must be fully aware of a perilous situation that seems to exist: politics sometimes substitute medical humanitarian-induced activism. This represents nothing less than a serious danger, and also a universally-embracing one. It is not to say that politics has no role in our journey toward ameliorating humanitarian crises, but that politics and bureaucracy should by no means interfere with our inherent concern for war/military conflicts/natural disasters casualties. Whether it is Darfurians suffering militia-led Janjaweed abuse or Chinese victims of a largely neglected earthquake, vulnerable groups of individuals falling between the cracks must ignite our very basic reflexes. THESE are the border zone populations that ought to become the focus of a broader and more sincere attempt to distribute genuine health care to all individuals of our society. </p>
<p>Ohad Oren<br />
<a href="mailto:ohadoren@gmail.com">ohadoren@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: barbie purl</title>
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		<dc:creator>barbie purl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 08:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would suggest your proposed hospital when built be run entirely by an international apolitical group of medical corps such as the Physicians for Human Rights. And that they be given a free hand without fear or favor or allegiance to any side in the conflict.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would suggest your proposed hospital when built be run entirely by an international apolitical group of medical corps such as the Physicians for Human Rights. And that they be given a free hand without fear or favor or allegiance to any side in the conflict.<br />
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Barbie Purl<br />
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		<title>By: Shiraz Ali</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shiraz Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Ohad.

Well written article. truly inspiring. It is comforting to know that there are still truly caring and empathic people in the world.
I am a medical student in England soon to garduate in 2009. I regularly do charity work anywhere it is needed. I ma currently involved in building a hospital in teh Indian subcontinent. If you truly wish this dream to become a reality i would love to get involved to make this happen. I would take up Micheal Baum on his offer, people like that are hard to come by.

Shiraz Ali. Hull york medical school England.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Ohad.</p>
<p>Well written article. truly inspiring. It is comforting to know that there are still truly caring and empathic people in the world.<br />
I am a medical student in England soon to garduate in 2009. I regularly do charity work anywhere it is needed. I ma currently involved in building a hospital in teh Indian subcontinent. If you truly wish this dream to become a reality i would love to get involved to make this happen. I would take up Micheal Baum on his offer, people like that are hard to come by.</p>
<p>Shiraz Ali. Hull york medical school England.</p>
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		<title>By: Raechil Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raechil Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Ohad
Thanks for you kind feelings.
Your idea (Lets ease the medical crises in Gaza by errecting a hospital on the borders).apparently is a good one.Unless you mean it is OK for Israel to keep closure of 1.5 million of Gazans.
Just to remindyou young man that most of gazans are refugees from villages on your side of the border.
I do not think Gazans need your hospital.they need to see your militry and government leaving them to get on with their life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Ohad<br />
Thanks for you kind feelings.<br />
Your idea (Lets ease the medical crises in Gaza by errecting a hospital on the borders).apparently is a good one.Unless you mean it is OK for Israel to keep closure of 1.5 million of Gazans.<br />
Just to remindyou young man that most of gazans are refugees from villages on your side of the border.<br />
I do not think Gazans need your hospital.they need to see your militry and government leaving them to get on with their life.</p>
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		<title>By: DR PAT RIORDAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>DR PAT RIORDAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article well written and thought provoking----should be circulated to Israeli and Palestinian leaders and to many more. In the highest Jewish ethical tradition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article well written and thought provoking&#8212;-should be circulated to Israeli and Palestinian leaders and to many more. In the highest Jewish ethical tradition.</p>
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		<title>By: A. J. Kirshen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2008/10/21/ohad-oren-ambulances-flying-above-the-middle-east/#comment-3078</link>
		<dc:creator>A. J. Kirshen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ohad:

I commend you on your compassion and caring and would like to encourage you in your hopes and dreams.

However I am more than somewhat disturbed in the almost total lack of mention of other suffering and of the lack of nuanced appreciation for the enablement leading to this situation.

At what point does society step in to make decisions, for example, for individuals of diminished ability instead of empowering them to make their own decisions? Do we once again incarcerate the mentally ill in state institutions or do we continue to allow them the freedom to live on the street and the consequences to their health and well-being?

As a physician, one practicing full-time palliative care,  I see decisions daily which I respect but disagree with. Some of them actively harm the individual patient and all that I can do is stand by and be supportive. Yet this is empowerment and personal decision-making.

Decisions have consequences. What right have we to impose our solutions? Where is the boundary?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohad:</p>
<p>I commend you on your compassion and caring and would like to encourage you in your hopes and dreams.</p>
<p>However I am more than somewhat disturbed in the almost total lack of mention of other suffering and of the lack of nuanced appreciation for the enablement leading to this situation.</p>
<p>At what point does society step in to make decisions, for example, for individuals of diminished ability instead of empowering them to make their own decisions? Do we once again incarcerate the mentally ill in state institutions or do we continue to allow them the freedom to live on the street and the consequences to their health and well-being?</p>
<p>As a physician, one practicing full-time palliative care,  I see decisions daily which I respect but disagree with. Some of them actively harm the individual patient and all that I can do is stand by and be supportive. Yet this is empowerment and personal decision-making.</p>
<p>Decisions have consequences. What right have we to impose our solutions? Where is the boundary?</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Anthony Papagiannis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2008/10/21/ohad-oren-ambulances-flying-above-the-middle-east/#comment-3075</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Anthony Papagiannis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However dismayed I may feel from reading continuous reports of a conflict that has been going on longer than my lifetime, I  can see a glimmer of hope in Ohad Oren's eloquent meditation. Here is a young colleague who is willing to learn from a medical hero of the past and to cross dividing lines and serve humanity regardless of political or other discrimination. Ohad, we all need more of your spirit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However dismayed I may feel from reading continuous reports of a conflict that has been going on longer than my lifetime, I  can see a glimmer of hope in Ohad Oren&#8217;s eloquent meditation. Here is a young colleague who is willing to learn from a medical hero of the past and to cross dividing lines and serve humanity regardless of political or other discrimination. Ohad, we all need more of your spirit!</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They all practice medicine on every body. Some for monitary gain and others through plain ole stupidity.

Just like all politicians. They are a ruthless bunch.(The ones that do it for monitary gain and could care less about human life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They all practice medicine on every body. Some for monitary gain and others through plain ole stupidity.</p>
<p>Just like all politicians. They are a ruthless bunch.(The ones that do it for monitary gain and could care less about human life.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Joan Abohweyere</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Joan Abohweyere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ohad,very well written. I agree with you that the interminable lenght of the Isreali-Palestinian Crisis is leading to a situation of apathy on the part of the average world citizen.

I would suggest your proposed hospital when built be run entirely by an international apolitical group of medical corps such as the Physicians for Human Rights. And that they be given a free hand without fear or favour or allegiance to any side in the conflict.

Your dream is a possibility if enough people will take up the call and create a ground swell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohad,very well written. I agree with you that the interminable lenght of the Isreali-Palestinian Crisis is leading to a situation of apathy on the part of the average world citizen.</p>
<p>I would suggest your proposed hospital when built be run entirely by an international apolitical group of medical corps such as the Physicians for Human Rights. And that they be given a free hand without fear or favour or allegiance to any side in the conflict.</p>
<p>Your dream is a possibility if enough people will take up the call and create a ground swell.</p>
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		<title>By: Dvorit Doryan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2008/10/21/ohad-oren-ambulances-flying-above-the-middle-east/#comment-3063</link>
		<dc:creator>Dvorit Doryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done, Ohad. Strongly do I agree with you that the only way out of this political crisis – and the complex health-related ramifications suffered as a result by Gazans – may be achieved ONLY through a cooperated (what you call "synergized") and highly motivated effort of various factors. To leave the ever-lasting Israeli-Palestinian conflict to be solved by itself is like hoping a fire would be extinguished using no external intervention. An internationally-based hospital of the type you are suggesting may produce the much needed transparency (that on too many occasions proved to be the crucial factor lacking), introduce foreign politically-unbiased players into the field, and concentrate focus on the humanitarian crisis rather than on irrelevant yet time-consuming issues, such as the construction of an extensive fence by Israel in an attempt to prevent smuggling of ammunition into its territory. 

If Israel wholeheartedly follows Baron Larrey's footsteps, separating its political aspirations from securing the basic rights of Palestinians in Gaza, maybe then the Gazans will repay Israel, just like Napoleon did to Larrey, when he erected two magnificent monuments for Larrey's memory, one of them at a Parisian military Hospital.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done, Ohad. Strongly do I agree with you that the only way out of this political crisis – and the complex health-related ramifications suffered as a result by Gazans – may be achieved ONLY through a cooperated (what you call &#8220;synergized&#8221;) and highly motivated effort of various factors. To leave the ever-lasting Israeli-Palestinian conflict to be solved by itself is like hoping a fire would be extinguished using no external intervention. An internationally-based hospital of the type you are suggesting may produce the much needed transparency (that on too many occasions proved to be the crucial factor lacking), introduce foreign politically-unbiased players into the field, and concentrate focus on the humanitarian crisis rather than on irrelevant yet time-consuming issues, such as the construction of an extensive fence by Israel in an attempt to prevent smuggling of ammunition into its territory. </p>
<p>If Israel wholeheartedly follows Baron Larrey&#8217;s footsteps, separating its political aspirations from securing the basic rights of Palestinians in Gaza, maybe then the Gazans will repay Israel, just like Napoleon did to Larrey, when he erected two magnificent monuments for Larrey&#8217;s memory, one of them at a Parisian military Hospital.</p>
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		<title>By: Professor Michael Baum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Professor Michael Baum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love to help you realize your dream.
I am currently involved as honest broker in bringing together the Israel Medical Association and Physicians for human rights, although based at University College London.
If you will it strongly enough you can make it happen.
Please contact me.
Mike Baum</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to help you realize your dream.<br />
I am currently involved as honest broker in bringing together the Israel Medical Association and Physicians for human rights, although based at University College London.<br />
If you will it strongly enough you can make it happen.<br />
Please contact me.<br />
Mike Baum</p>
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