Comments on: MTAS ’scrapped’ - but round 1 interviews remain http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2007/05/15/mtas-scrapped-but-round-1-interviews-remain/ Just another blogs.bmj.com weblog Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:42:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: P Gupta http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2007/05/15/mtas-scrapped-but-round-1-interviews-remain/#comment-1712 P Gupta Fri, 25 May 2007 19:09:42 +0000 http://resource.bmj.com/bmj/2007/05/15/mtas-scrapped-but-round-1-interviews-remain/#comment-1712 The government have no idea what mess they have created in the medical field. They are messing with people's life. I am so afraid for the families of all doctors affected by the system just because someone with this big idea created this mess yet no one is coming up with some good solutions. What will happen to all the doctors who won't secure a post at ST3/ST4? After all, it hasn't been easy getting to that stage, does the government expect ST3/ST4 doctors to just simply given up the medical profession they worked so hard for and find something else to do? What are they going to while the government tries to get more post created? The government have no idea what mess they have created in the medical field. They are messing with people’s life. I am so afraid for the families of all doctors affected by the system just because someone with this big idea created this mess yet no one is coming up with some good solutions. What will happen to all the doctors who won’t secure a post at ST3/ST4? After all, it hasn’t been easy getting to that stage, does the government expect ST3/ST4 doctors to just simply given up the medical profession they worked so hard for and find something else to do? What are they going to while the government tries to get more post created?

]]> By: David Markham http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2007/05/15/mtas-scrapped-but-round-1-interviews-remain/#comment-1711 David Markham Thu, 24 May 2007 15:02:01 +0000 http://resource.bmj.com/bmj/2007/05/15/mtas-scrapped-but-round-1-interviews-remain/#comment-1711 Help me please. I am so distressed over this whole shambles. I initially ranked GP as my second choice but aftyer all the messing around and what I thought was a suuccesful interview I changed it to my first choice in May. I believed that this would then give me an increased chance of getting a job in an area I was always satisfied to work in even though it was not initially my first choice.I was then told I would not be offered a position even though I met the standards but I am on the standby list. I now read that the second round will not be completed until November. I am almost certain I feel to be out of work for a few months now as I dont rate my chances of getting through on standby. I have been told I meet the standard, my assements are completed (at an above required standard I may add), my audits are done, my referances excellent, my ability adequate, my motivation sky high, my debts even higher and my prospects, well what happened to them. You have taken a enthusiastic, motivated and capable junior doctor and transformed him into an anxious, and depressed trainee who currently spends a few hours a week looking for potential jobs in the local newspaper. Help me please. I am so distressed over this whole shambles. I initially ranked GP as my second choice but aftyer all the messing around and what I thought was a suuccesful interview I changed it to my first choice in May. I believed that this would then give me an increased chance of getting a job in an area I was always satisfied to work in even though it was not initially my first choice.I was then told I would not be offered a position even though I met the standards but I am on the standby list. I now read that the second round will not be completed until November. I am almost certain I feel to be out of work for a few months now as I dont rate my chances of getting through on standby. I have been told I meet the standard, my assements are completed (at an above required standard I may add), my audits are done, my referances excellent, my ability adequate, my motivation sky high, my debts even higher and my prospects, well what happened to them. You have taken a enthusiastic, motivated and capable junior doctor and transformed him into an anxious, and depressed trainee who currently spends a few hours a week looking for potential jobs in the local newspaper.

]]> By: Rebecca Daniel http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2007/05/15/mtas-scrapped-but-round-1-interviews-remain/#comment-1710 Rebecca Daniel Fri, 18 May 2007 11:01:09 +0000 http://resource.bmj.com/bmj/2007/05/15/mtas-scrapped-but-round-1-interviews-remain/#comment-1710 Despite the governments best efforst to save face by hiding behind the disintegration of the MTAS inteviews that were held and are still being held based on decsions made using this flawed system are being considered to appoint candidates . I have watched in horror as the events unfold !! I faii to understand why GP results were relased based on prefernces and NOT on who the most qualified candidate was . Prefernces will not be used in the rest of the round for otehr specialities according to the latest information . The unfairness of the whole system is an outrage and meanwhile the NHS will inevitably loose it best and brightest, There can be no doubt of this.Additionally the blatant discrimination both racial and otherwise that has been promoted is frighteing . Dare we believe the stories of how "non british sounding names " were used as judging unsuitability for jobs ? Despite the governments best efforst to save face by hiding behind the disintegration of the MTAS inteviews that were held and are still being held based on decsions made using this flawed system are being considered to appoint candidates . I have watched in horror as the events unfold !! I faii to understand why GP results were relased based on prefernces and NOT on who the most qualified candidate was . Prefernces will not be used in the rest of the round for otehr specialities according to the latest information . The unfairness of the whole system is an outrage and meanwhile the NHS will inevitably loose it best and brightest, There can be no doubt of this.Additionally the blatant discrimination both racial and otherwise that has been promoted is frighteing . Dare we believe the stories of how “non british sounding names ” were used as judging unsuitability for jobs ?

]]> By: aditya http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2007/05/15/mtas-scrapped-but-round-1-interviews-remain/#comment-1709 aditya Thu, 17 May 2007 12:08:41 +0000 http://resource.bmj.com/bmj/2007/05/15/mtas-scrapped-but-round-1-interviews-remain/#comment-1709 I never imagined that the british system would do the same to the doctors serving the NHS, as it has done to the entire world- A handful of beaurocrats messing with the whole system and lives of other people, for what- probably just to leave a shameful legacy. They dont even have faith in their own system which has run for ages and produced excellent doctors. What a shame. I never imagined that the british system would do the same to the doctors serving the NHS, as it has done to the entire world- A handful of beaurocrats messing with the whole system and lives of other people, for what- probably just to leave a shameful legacy. They dont even have faith in their own system which has run for ages and produced excellent doctors. What a shame.

]]> By: Prabhakaran Naveen http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2007/05/15/mtas-scrapped-but-round-1-interviews-remain/#comment-1708 Prabhakaran Naveen Wed, 16 May 2007 21:25:30 +0000 http://resource.bmj.com/bmj/2007/05/15/mtas-scrapped-but-round-1-interviews-remain/#comment-1708 I just wonder what happens to staff grades on work permit visas, who have applied for ST4 posts under the MTAS? I had an email in April saying I am not eligible and i have to withdraw my application because of my immigration status. I tried contacting MTAS but where are they and these so called deaneries? discrimination and politics in a blender I suppose I just wonder what happens to staff grades on work permit visas, who have applied for ST4 posts under the MTAS?

I had an email in April saying I am not eligible and i have to withdraw my application because of my immigration status.

I tried contacting MTAS but where are they and these so called deaneries? discrimination and politics in a blender I suppose

]]> By: Melonie K. Sriranganathan http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2007/05/15/mtas-scrapped-but-round-1-interviews-remain/#comment-1707 Melonie K. Sriranganathan Wed, 16 May 2007 10:45:25 +0000 http://resource.bmj.com/bmj/2007/05/15/mtas-scrapped-but-round-1-interviews-remain/#comment-1707 With MTAS scrapped, for the select few that actually get into a training post, is that post only for one year, and will we face this shambles again next year? With MTAS scrapped, for the select few that actually get into a training post, is that post only for one year, and will we face this shambles again next year?

]]> By: matthew http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2007/05/15/mtas-scrapped-but-round-1-interviews-remain/#comment-1706 matthew Wed, 16 May 2007 09:36:20 +0000 http://resource.bmj.com/bmj/2007/05/15/mtas-scrapped-but-round-1-interviews-remain/#comment-1706 Now that MTAS has been abandoned does this mean that the GP selection process is to be reviewed and jobs given on the basis of performance at the selection centres and interview rather than on how high you ranked GP? (GP jobs were only given to those that ranked it 1st and not, as was intended, on the performance!!!) Now that MTAS has been abandoned does this mean that the GP selection process is to be reviewed and jobs given on the basis of performance at the selection centres and interview rather than on how high you ranked GP? (GP jobs were only given to those that ranked it 1st and not, as was intended, on the performance!!!)

]]> By: Igah Ibidumo http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2007/05/15/mtas-scrapped-but-round-1-interviews-remain/#comment-1705 Igah Ibidumo Wed, 16 May 2007 08:39:25 +0000 http://resource.bmj.com/bmj/2007/05/15/mtas-scrapped-but-round-1-interviews-remain/#comment-1705 I supported the MTAS because for the first time I got to experience equal opportunity first hand. The computerized system was free of any discrimination and prejudice but may be flawed in some criteria which made some working class British citizens not to be shortlisted. I felt it should have simply been reviewed but its a shame its being scrapped. I feel it was a victim of politics and we have to be pulled back to an archaic system where human factors come into play. I am a British Citizen but a foreign graduate and was shortlisted for 2 interviews(thanks to the computers) by MTAS compared to having been shortlisted for only one job interview in the past 2years despite loads of applications which I met the person specifications. I wonder what the results would represent now that discrimination and prejudice can play a role in selection of doctors. However, I was glad some doctors got to experience what it felt like not being given a chance despite meeting all the requirements set out; it happens every day but usually to a minority not considered by the society. I supported the MTAS because for the first time I got to experience equal opportunity first hand. The computerized system was free of any discrimination and prejudice but may be flawed in some criteria which made some working class British citizens not to be shortlisted. I felt it should have simply been reviewed but its a shame its being scrapped.
I feel it was a victim of politics and we have to be pulled back to an archaic system where human factors come into play.
I am a British Citizen but a foreign graduate and was shortlisted for 2 interviews(thanks to the computers) by MTAS compared to having been shortlisted for only one job interview in the past 2years despite loads of applications which I met the person specifications.
I wonder what the results would represent now that discrimination and prejudice can play a role in selection of doctors. However, I was glad some doctors got to experience what it felt like not being given a chance despite meeting all the requirements set out; it happens every day but usually to a minority not considered by the society.

]]> By: duncan http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2007/05/15/mtas-scrapped-but-round-1-interviews-remain/#comment-1704 duncan Tue, 15 May 2007 23:42:53 +0000 http://resource.bmj.com/bmj/2007/05/15/mtas-scrapped-but-round-1-interviews-remain/#comment-1704 <p>This website is a smoke screen to the crux of the problem.</p> <p>THE WEBSITE MAY BE DOWN BUT THIS DOES NOT ADDRESS ALL OUR PROBLEMS...... in fact it only addresses the security issue</p> <p>WE ARE STILL USING THE UNFAIR PROCESS...the information which was entered into the computer system is still being used to select juniors into posts. </p> <p>What assurances are being sort by the BMA that he information from our “exam papers “ are being accurately passed over to the deaneries? Given that Scotland,had to ask who needed interviews, and then used a computer programme to highlight non english sounding names, subsequently excluding british born individuals, from opportunities.</p> <p>The website hasn't worked for weeks and the bias selection programme is still being implemented by the deaneries!!! </p> This website is a smoke screen to the crux of the problem.

THE WEBSITE MAY BE DOWN BUT THIS DOES NOT ADDRESS ALL OUR PROBLEMS…… in fact it only addresses the security issue

WE ARE STILL USING THE UNFAIR PROCESS…the information which was entered into the computer system is still being used to select juniors into posts.

What assurances are being sort by the BMA that he information from our “exam papers “ are being accurately passed over to the deaneries? Given that Scotland,had to ask who needed interviews, and then used a computer programme to highlight non english sounding names, subsequently excluding british born individuals, from opportunities.

The website hasn’t worked for weeks and the bias selection programme is still being implemented by the deaneries!!!

]]> By: sharma,mohan http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2007/05/15/mtas-scrapped-but-round-1-interviews-remain/#comment-1701 sharma,mohan Tue, 15 May 2007 21:04:21 +0000 http://resource.bmj.com/bmj/2007/05/15/mtas-scrapped-but-round-1-interviews-remain/#comment-1701 this was to happen, its typical character to create a mess and then find a way out of it to do what you were originally doing and that let the world know that we have atleast found 100 reasons why the system didnt worked and why this is not to be used in future thanks for no thanks this was to happen, its typical character to create a mess and then find a way out of it to do what you were originally doing and that let the world know that we have atleast found 100 reasons why the system didnt worked and why this is not to be used in future
thanks for no thanks

]]> By: Dr Jenny Townsend http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2007/05/15/mtas-scrapped-but-round-1-interviews-remain/#comment-1700 Dr Jenny Townsend Tue, 15 May 2007 19:46:33 +0000 http://resource.bmj.com/bmj/2007/05/15/mtas-scrapped-but-round-1-interviews-remain/#comment-1700 At last they've seen sense! But what a waste of everybodys time and money. At last they’ve seen sense! But what a waste of everybodys time and money.

]]> By: Hussein Khambalia http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2007/05/15/mtas-scrapped-but-round-1-interviews-remain/#comment-1703 Hussein Khambalia Tue, 15 May 2007 17:26:32 +0000 http://resource.bmj.com/bmj/2007/05/15/mtas-scrapped-but-round-1-interviews-remain/#comment-1703 I welcome this news, although it comes as no surprise, but I am concerned about the way we will be told which posts we have got. As the deaneries will now offer us the posts and it will not be done through MTAS is it possible that we will be offered more than 1 post, and if so, how long can we wait before we decide on which post we will accept. Can anyone clarify this? I welcome this news, although it comes as no surprise, but I am concerned about the way we will be told which posts we have got. As the deaneries will now offer us the posts and it will not be done through MTAS is it possible that we will be offered more than 1 post, and if so, how long can we wait before we decide on which post we will accept. Can anyone clarify this?

]]> By: Jamie Fanning http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2007/05/15/mtas-scrapped-but-round-1-interviews-remain/#comment-1702 Jamie Fanning Tue, 15 May 2007 15:11:24 +0000 http://resource.bmj.com/bmj/2007/05/15/mtas-scrapped-but-round-1-interviews-remain/#comment-1702 When will the powers that be stop messing about with our lives, pick a system, stick with it, and let us plan for our future? When will the powers that be stop messing about with our lives, pick a system, stick with it, and let us plan for our future?

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